• Travel Ace Kiratiana Freelon Shares Culture and the Black experience in Paris

     Kiratiana Freelon is author of Kiratiana’s Travel Guide to Black Paris: Get Lost and Get Found.

    Ytasha:  How did you come up with the idea to do a travel guide for Black Paris?

    Kiratiana:  I came up with the idea in spring 2002 when Harvard awarded me this travel scholarship. I wanted to come up with travel guides that would focus on the African diaspora to convince people who usually don’t travel, to travel. I wanted to make travel interesting. I didn’t want to travel all over the world and do nothing with it. That seemed so selfish. So in 2003, I wrote a first draft of it. It wasn’t until 2005 -06 when I lived in Paris again, that I wrote a draft I was satisfied with and geared up to actually publish it.

    Ytasha: Tell me about the book.

    Kiratiana:  It is a travel guide. It is a practical guide that helps you to not only discover typical, idyllic Paris, but it also helps you explore and discover locations and communities with people of African descent. With it being a travel guide, it provides itineraries. It lists places you can stay in Paris. It has a night life section with clubs. But the thing that makes it unique is that it includes an extension section that connects you to sites and the history of Paris; of blacks and African Americans in Paris.

    Ytasha: What’s the history of African Americans in Paris?

    Kiratiana: The African American presence in Paris is directly related to WWI and WWII. Thousands of African American soldiers had the opportunity to go to Paris during the war. The French didn’t treat them the way white Americans did. Imagine being an African American during the war in the 40s and a white Frenchman invites you into their home. They were amazed. [The African American] experience was so atypical. In addition to having travelling regiments, you also had this touring band with the military that [introduced] jazz music to France. The French people loved jazz music so much, that some blacks stayed in France to play. The only people who could play it at the time were African Americans. Combined with these black soldiers coming back from France [to America] saying they’re so nice, and you had more French people who wanted to hear jazz – it just led to a host of African American artists going to Paris and taking root there.

    Ytasha: What’s the influence of African American culture on France today?

    Kiratiana: You can almost say that black American culture exists in Paris through hip-hop and on television, but there is not a significant expat community there anymore. That community disappeared by the 70s. As that was happening, millions of African and Caribbean people were immigrating to Paris. So if you go to Paris right now, when you see black people in the streets, they will be of Caribbean and African descent.  You can tell who’s from Senegal, Mali, Cameroon etc.  So right now, they have very few large, significant communities. You have the Malian community, the Senegalese, etc., but this concept of looking at yourself as part of the black community is very foreign to France.

    Ytasha: What do you attribute this to?

    Kiratiana: In France, they want everyone to be French. In France, they feel like they have successfully integrated you if you are totally French and if you have no remnants of your other culture.  [Blacks in France] are just now starting to see themselves as part of this black community. The children of the Senegalese, the Malian – they grow up with a more complicated identity. They have the identity of their Senegalese parents, but they are raised in France.

    Ytasha: How are readers responding?

    Kiratiana: In general, people are amazed at the depth of information in the book. There is a very in-depth time line that goes through the presence of blacks in the late 19th century to now. Also, the book is 260 pages. I don’t think they thought they’d see such an in-depth book on a small topic.

    Ytasha: What are your Paris top picks?

    Kiratiana: If you were short on time and you wanted to explore black Paris – let’s say you have four days- you should do one of two things. Take an organized black Paris tour – those are listed in the book. Eat at a Senegalese restaurant or have Caribbean food. Chez Lucie, one of my favorite Caribbean restaurants, is right around the corner from the Eiffel Tower.  There’s a neighborhood called la Goutte  d’Or. When I first lived in Paris for a month, I went to a tourism place and said, ‘where can I find black people in Paris?’ [The tourism agent] pulled out this map and pointed to this neighborhood on a map, and said ‘if you want to find black people, go here’.  It’s also called Chateau Rouge. The first thing I see coming up the stairs was a KFC and a beauty supply shop. There are more things to offer than that, but it’s a really good place to see Paris’ diversity. 

    Musee du quai Branly -this is a museum of indigenous culture.  I love this museum because it basically shows art work – all the stuff the colonist took when they were colonizing – cultural markers from West Africa, North Africa and a lot from south East Asia. The places where they are stronger are where France was colonized. It’s a great museum, despite the way they came to collect these things. They always have great exhibitions. They have a great exhibit on the Dogon culture from Mali. They have great music and concerts. It’s also right around the corner from the Eiffel Tower.

    For more information go to http://www.kiratianatravels.com


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  • Ghanaian Emcee Blitz the Ambassador Talks Hip-hop and Cultural Paradigms

    Ghanaian-born rapper Blitz the Ambassador champions changing identity and bridges the universality of the African immigrant story in America. He’s touring promoting his latest release, Native Sun. Here he discusses hip-hop, the power of the voice and the shifts in culture.

    Ytasha: You were first introduced to hip-hop as a kid in Ghana before moving to New York. What was the appeal of the art form?

    Blitz: Back in Ghana, it was percussive so we got it immediately. It was very linguistic, which appealed to us. Most importantly, we saw young people like us who saw their voice. [Rappers] found a way not to be ignored. They were young, they looked like us, but what they had that we didn’t have was the confidence.  They were going to be listened to. They were going to be heard one way or another. We were growing up in a time where young people in Africa didn’t have a voice, similar to young black people in America not having a voice. We could relate. It made it very appealing.

    I was fortunate to move to the states, to lend my voice to hip-hop. I believed strongly in hip-hop culture. I could speak about our realities in a way that could not be ignored, through the rhythm, the beat, the rhymes or the culture. I look at this as a culture that came full circle, the influenced coming to the influencers. Now we’re influencing the people who influence us as reminders of where the culture began.

    Ytasha: Several of your songs are in African languages. Which languages do you speak and what’s the response to rapping in a language most are unfamiliar with?

    Blitz: I scatter a lot of my native language throughout my music. I speak four Ghanaian languages. A lot of people confuse our languages with dialects. A lot of Europeans and Americans, they say, ‘you speak African dialects’ and I say ‘no, I speak African languages.’

    Ytasha: There are over 3,000 languages spoken in Africa, not including dialects.

    Blitz: Exactly. They don’t think of African languages as full, complete entities with sub-languages and sub-dialects.  I also speak a couple of dialects in these. I speak Twi (Akan), Ga, and Sisala.

    The reason I choose to rhyme in these languages is because these languages are dying at an alarming rate and a lot of it is because of the Europeanization. People assume that if you speak better English or French you get further ahead in life. If you speak Twi or Ga you get nowhere in life. When I rap in an African language it perpetuates the fact that [African languages] are just as important as any other language in the world. We suffer from a huge deficiency in confidence. I do anything I can to perpetuate this confidence. Definitely hearing the Twi language being played all over the world, playing in front of 4000 people, speaking to them in Twi is a huge statement to some kid in Ghana.

    Ytasha:  Some people believe that hip-hop is the first global musical movement. Do you agree?

    Blitz: I’ve always believed that hip-hop culture is truly the first global movement in terms of music. If you go back to who’s credited as the godfather of this, DJ Kool Herc – he’s from the Caribbean, but he’s influenced by sound system culture from Kingston, Jamaica. He comes to the Bronx and brings a version of this sound system culture with dancers in the parks and deejays. The birthplace is the Bronx, but the influence of the culture starts way before the Bronx. If you travel back to before Africans were shipped to the Caribbean from the Americas, you know where that outdoor sound comes from? It comes from the celebrations of Africa.

    Ytasha: When we were on the WHPK radio together, we spoke about the transitions in culture, some of which I chronicled in my book Post Black or are referenced when people discuss Afropolitans.  But identity seems to be an issue that’s discussed worldwide. What do you attribute this identity issue that appears to be global today?

    Blitz: I think people are looking for answers that are more current, more updated than what they’ve been given all their lives. You go to school, you get a job, you retire with benefits. For most people in the world, that is a changing paradigm that works for a few people. But for others, they have to find another way and they have to find new ideas. While these new ideas are being discussed, people, whether they know it or not, people are coming up with a whole different paradigm on how the world works. The concept of what you pay for/what you don’t pay for, for example, is being rethought. The concept of what to learn – most people who go into art design or filmmaking are not people who went to film school or design school. They are people with an idea. They can go to a website and learn it immediately. Just that quest of new ideas and getting in touch with where the world is, is what people are seeking right now.

    Through social media we’re a lot more connected than we used to [be]. The speed with which information is spreading is unprecedented; there was never a time where a song came out in America and within hours, people in Africa could download it. I remember living in Africa and if a film or song came out in America we had to wait months for someone to get lucky to get it. That spread of information and concepts has really quickened and hastened what people feel their life should be.

    This Occupy Movement that started in the Arab Spring showed the power of social media and organizing around that. You have massive dictators overthrown based on Twitter and FB accounts. Obviously, Twitter didn’t start the revolution, but it was a major tool to help people organize around it. Looking at what happened here around Occupy Wall Street, that was a direct result of that. Now it’s moving to sub-Saharan Africa with Nigerians occupying Nigeria right now. This shows how much this information has spread that idea of entitlement. The fact that now people can see what life is in a more open and detailed way forces people to think.

    People are looking at Twitter accounts and see ‘wow, your electricity lasts every day’. It doesn’t have to last three days a week. People didn’t know in America that the roads were paved or that traffic lights worked. And to see it in real time changes everything. To see people in your age group living just like you on a much higher standard, you start to ask yourself, ‘why don’t I have these things?’ When these questions are asked, that’s when change happens. They try to limit people’s access from across the world. If you know there’s a better way to live, you’re not going to accept a substandard way of living. That’s really where it matters the most, in terms of how it affects the diaspora. We’re affecting ourselves much more in real time.

    For more information on Blitz the Ambassador, go to www.blitz.mvmt.com.




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  • Seasoned Baller Theo Hill Coaches Leadership in Youth through Sports


    Theo Hill is Founder and Executive Director of the M.A.D.E  Foundation, a Chicago-based basketball and leadership program for children. A former basketball player who has played in leagues around the world, he’s passionate about developing character through sports with youth. M.A.D.E celebrated its 10th anniversary in January.

    Ytasha: Why did you create the M.A.D.E Foundation?

    Theo: I have a passion and a need to help kids through basketball and sports. I also wanted to give back to the community. There’s a need for positive role models in the community. I had a place to play when I grew up, I had mentors, I was in the Boys & Girls Club.  You don’t see that as much.

    Ytasha: Tell me about the M.A.D.E program?

    Theo: The program teaches leadership and development through sports.  In sports you learn so many skills and attributes that you need for everyday life and to work in the workforce. You learn discipline, strong work ethic, how to deal with adversity and more.

    We teach the basic fundamentals of basketball, leadership development, as well as health and nutrition.

    Ytasha: Do you have any partnerships?

    Theo: We partnered with the University of Illinois’ “Extension and Outreach” program.  We partner with several Chicago Public Schools, Abraham Lincoln Center, the Gary Comer Center and the Chicago Youth Center.

    Ytasha: How did you decide to launch M.A.D.E?

    Theo: It was a dream that I had. I woke up one day with a vision to give back [to] the youth. I had the entire business plan in the dream.  M.A.D.E – making a difference everywhere. It was a calling, Kind of scary.

    It took five months to get the program in schools.  We get corporate sponsorship, grants from private donors, as well as being contracted out by CPS. New Balance, Comcast, Kenneth Cole have sponsored us.  We’ve won grants from the Springboard Foundation and the Chicago Community Trust.

    Ytasha: How are the children transformed by the program?

    Theo: Their behavior is different. Many had anger management issues. Their physical conditioning is better. We also noticed that their attention improved.

    Ytasha: How many schools are you currently working with?

    Theo: We’re working with 8 schools and social service agencies. We have 200 kids and 10 staff members.

    Typically, during the school year a program runs from 16 [to] 24 weeks. Our programs are year round. We work with 8-14 schools in a year. In the summer time, it’s twice as much.

    Ytasha: Is this a rewarding experience?

    Theo: I love being able to help kids and to see the growth from the kids for the duration of the program, through high school and college. I might have a kid who has been in my program since the 4rth grade. Many share that they remember the things I taught them.

    Ytasha: What do they remember?

    Theo: They remember a lot of the phrases we have them repeat. ‘I’m a leader and not a follower.’ ‘If you say it you can do it.’ ‘Don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t do anything.’ ‘Strive to do anything that you want to do.’ We also tell them to have confidence. Many don’t have confidence.

    Ytasha: Who are your staff?

    Theo: Some of the staff are teachers, some are college students. I have a couple guys on staff who work with other social service agencies who played overseas. Teachers, college students, former athletes.

    Ytasha: You’ve had some high profile, celebrity fundraisers as well.

    Theo: We had a 3 on 3 by the Lake Community and Family Event. We had games for the kids, venders came out. We had a Celebrity Paintball Event in Hawaii twice. We had another [event] in the Bahamas with Tichina Arnold, Regina King, Ray Lewis, Kris Humphries, Nicholas Gonzalez and Brian Cook.

    Ytasha: Many people want to start nonprofits for kids, but it’s not as easy as it seems.

    Theo: First of all you have to have a passion for it. If you don’t have a passion for working with kids, it will never work. You are not going to get rich from social services.  I’m not in it for the money. You also have to identify what need you want to address. Ours was to teach children that you are a leader, not a follower, so that they don’t look to gangs, etc. Basketball was our hook. 

    Ytasha: Why did you choose to focus on leadership?

    Theo: A lot of kids are followers.  It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to follow behind someone. Your peers, students, classmates respect you a lot more when you’re a leader.

    Not too long ago, there was a kid walking pass, who called my name. I didn’t recognize him at first but he had participated in the M.A.D.E program. He was just about to graduate from high school at the time, he showed me his grades. He had an academic scholarship. He said he remembered some of the things we taught. He was a bad kid when I knew him. Now he’s a basketball coach and a teacher at a high school.

    I follow a lot of the kids. That’s part of our measurable outcomes. We deal with kids up to junior high.  We tell them if they have any problems to talk to us. We’ve helped kids get into college. One of our board members connected us with Ada S. McKinley. A good 60-70% of our kids go on to play sports in high school.

    Ytasha: What’s next?

    Theo: I want to expand it. We want to expand it at the minimum throughout the Midwest, Wisconsin, Indiana and Michigan. 

    For more information on Theo Hill and the M.A.D.E Foundation go to www.madeforchicago.org.

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  • Sister Duo Blends Sci-Fi, Comedy and Puppetry with New HR Web Series


    Kyra and Kozi Kyles are sisters with a serious sci-fi leaning. The twosome launched the Human Resources series, a sci-fi puppet show that explores workforce dynamics.  The webisode series launched in November, 2011.

    Ytasha: How did you come up with the idea of a sci-fi comedic puppet show on human resources?

    Kozi: The idea came from one of my own personal work experiences. I started working for a company that started going through a layoff situation. The only thing I could compare it to was sci-fi.

    Ytasha: That’s a really funny perspective. But why did you use puppets?

    Kyra: Initially we tried to write it as a feature film. We realized we would need a Steven Spielberg budget to create what we were writing. So we said ‘there’s got to be a way to make this’. We thought about doing it as animation. Then we said ‘let’s do it with puppets’.

    Kozi: Kyra and I are not puppeteers. We had to reach out to the community in Chicago. We had some ideas. We had some references. We worked with some students from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. David Candelaria, [who] worked on [the movie] Coraline; he gave us great tips on working on the project. He loved the project.

    Ytasha: How did you create your characters?

    Kozi: We wanted characters you can relate to but we also wanted some fantasy. We also wanted to look at some things that aren’t so pleasant to talk about. This is a sci-fi comedy but we wanted to talk about the economy and talk about other issues.

    Ytasha: How many episodes did you shoot?

    Kyra: We shot 11 episodes; we’re rolling them out week by week.

    Kyra: Essentially this is a workplace comedy with sci-fi elements. Most people work at a job and mysterious and strange things happen. People get fired for weird reasons. They disappear into strange offices. It’s a twisted way of looking at the horrible things happening in the work place. People told me they like the two genres (sci-fi and comedy) working together. They don’t want the ‘whoa is me’ take. It’s a way to make a comedy that is effective.

    For more information go to www.hrtheseries.com.

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  • Dorothy Roberts Debunks Race as Biological in “Fatal Invention”

    Dorothy Roberts is author of the new book Fatal Invention: How Science, Politics, and Big Business Re-create Race in the Twenty-First Century (New Press, 2011). She is also the Kirkland & Ellis Professor at Northwestern University School of Law and a faculty fellow at the Institute for Policy Research, with appointments in the departments of Sociology and African American Studies. Here she discusses the rise in identifying race as biological among some scientists.

    YLW: Why did you write Fatal Invention?

    DR: I decided to write it because I have noticed resurgence in the use of the term race as a biological category. And also [I noticed] a growing acceptance among colleagues and speakers that race really is biological and somehow genomic science will soon discover the biological truths about race. The more I looked into it, I saw there were more scientists that said they discovered race in the genes, more products coming out showing that race is a natural division.

    YLW: But race is not biological, it’s purely a political creation.

    DR: I thought this trend [of race as biological] was supporting a false concept of race. But also, I was alarmed that knowing history; the biological construct of race has been used to obscure the political origin of racial inequality, to make it seem as if the reason people of color are disadvantaged in society is natural, as opposed to political and institutional.

    It’s a very frightening development. We would accomplish so much more, if all the money that was going into race based genes were going into cleaning up the toxins in black neighborhoods that cause black people to get cancer and die, cleaning up education or basic health care for everybody.

    YLW: Many people have a hard time accepting that race is a political creation and not biological, despite the years of proving otherwise.

    DR: There are some people who understand this- using economic theory and research showing you that you cannot divide the human race into species. Scientist have known this and proved it definitively for decades. So it’s alarming when you see scientist promoting race as genetic.

    YLWCan you give me examples of the false notion of race as biology that’s popping up in science that your reference in your book?

    DR: There are ancestry groups testing customers that say with a cheek swab they can trace your ancestry. Then you have federal and state authorities that are amassing DNA databases that compel people to give up their DNA if they are arrested. As a result these databases are disproportionately made up of black and Latino profiles. Pharmaceuticals targeted people according to race. The food and drug administration has already targeted a heart therapy for black patients. It was only turned into a race specific drug when the original patent ran out.

    DR: There are studies to explain racial divisions in health that are actually caused by social inequalities. Yet you have researchers studying high blood pressure, asthma among blacks, etc. and looking for a genetic cause. However, research shows these [illnesses] are the effects of racial inequality and the stress of racial inequality.

    YLW: So race based medicines, like a heart medicine for African Americans, are illogical, because since race isn’t biological, you can’t have a medicine targeting this group?

    DR: Correct. Of those who say [race is biological], they usually point to sickle cell anemia, as proof that illnesses are race-based. Even if you look at these genetic diseases that seem to run along with race, it’s actually caused by environment. Sickle cell is an adaptation in areas with high rates of malaria. You find it in some areas of Africa, Asia and Europe. It’s not about race at all.

    DR: To me it’s so obvious that race is a political category. Who is considered black, Asian, Indian, all these things changes depending on political circumstances and are determined by political markers. Yet people hold on to this idea that if scientist keep searching and searching they will find the divisions of a human species, and we’ve found it is a false pursuit.

    YLW: You argue that the scientific inquiry in looking to genetics to create health remedies has led to an interest in looking to genetics to explain a host of social ills and challenges including race. 

    DR: Genes can never tell you anything without looking at the environment that they are expressed because of the very cells of our bodies. There is not a gene that causes cancer. That is false. After spending millions and millions of dollars they have not come up with the genes that cause cancer or diabetes or any of these diseases. It’s been a false hope, now they are looking to race as a way to make money off of this failed attempt to make money off of a gene map. Race is a bad way to prescribe drugs. I don’t want some doctor to look at me and say you’re black so you should take this drug. I want it to be based on an examination of me.

    YLW: What are the dangers of viewing race biologically?

    DR: It’s not just a matter of being wrong. It’s the disastrous consequences, because it sends the message that all the inequalities in who dies earlier and who bears suffering from disease, who gets poorly educated, who fills prison cells- it makes it seem like it’s some biological difference, when it’s the power of advantage and disadvantage. But instead of looking at those implications, they’d rather look at false proof written in our genes.

    DR: There is a history of tracing race to a biological pathology. And there is a counter tradition of saying no, we have innate superiority. I don’t think talking about innate superiority or otherwise is the way to go. I think looking at the success in spite of the disadvantages, looking at doing it in spite of the social constraints, makes sense.

    DR: I also got resistance from black friends, relatives and colleagues to this idea that race is a political system. I think there are people who realize there is racism in America and the political nature, but they also want to hold on to a biological concept of race. There are conservatives who want to hold on to the fact that there is a biological concept of race to explain inequality. But there are also black people in America who believe this.

    YLW: Can you give me an example?

    DR: For one, ancestry testing and another in the first race specific drugs targeted to African American patients with heart failure. In both cases these are African Americans who are promoting products to some extent that use the idea that we are biologically different and saying that is important to our identity.

    YLW: You’re saying that genetic ancestry testing, say finding the African tribe you descended from is impossible to find genetically? 

    DR: We cannot, in most cases, trace our ancestry back to Africa. My position is that you’re basing it on an illusion that there is a biological demarcation.

    YLW: Ancestry testing is very popular and many people take great pride in being able to identify the African ethnic group they derived from. But you’re saying that genetically, you can’t trace this ancestry. Why not?

    DR: The science of it is matching the customers DNA profile and specific genetic base to a genetic base that was collected in Africa. Each company has a different database. It’s proprietary and based on collections that they did themselves and collected, or publicly available ones they collected. You’re talking about matching a customer’s traits to a database that was collected recently, obviously not collecting those people who were around during the slave trade. They didn’t test anyone 300 years ago.

    DR: The most they can tell you is that your traits are the closest to a group they sampled recently, but that group might be different. They might not be in the same location. There have been migrations in Africa sense then. You just don’t know if it’s a match to an ancestor. And because different companies have different samples and different ways of matching, you can go to four ancestry companies and get different results. It is not the definitive answer that many people think it is. It involves a lot of guess work. At the end a lot of people who have results say they came from the Mendi tribe, others say Yoruba or Zulu. Then the customer who has all these results has to pick one. Then we’re back to a political affinity. Which one do I like better? Which one do I want to align with?

    DR: I say just pick one. Why take the test? Maybe you like the artwork of that group, or maybe you met someone of that group, or maybe you like the politics. Yes we have ancestors from Africa and from other countries as well, but that does not have to be spliced down

    DR: Africa has more genetic diversity than any other continent in the world. We are genetically extremely diverse, but we also know that African Americans are products of mixtures of all kinds of ancestries. There is no biological essence to being African American. We’re extremely mixed. But I believe there is a political solidarity that we can have, not based on our biology, but based on our commitment to fight racism and to have a better world that is rid of political injustice.

    For more information on Dorothy Roberts go to http://www.dorothy-roberts.com/

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  • Post Black: The One Year Anniversary Interview

    Post Black celebrates its one year anniversary this month. Interview with Ytasha L. Womack conducted by NV Magazine’s Christopher Chaney.
    CC: Post Black initially graced the shelves of bookstores nationwide on January 1 last year. Reflecting on your interactions with audiences as you toured our nation what have you learned that has intrigued you the most?
    YLW: For one, I learned people really enjoy talking about identity.  I also realized that people enjoy gaining new insights and finding reasons to have conversations with people who they typically might not run across. Something else that was reaffirmed for me, is that people enjoy seeing themselves in media. They like to see their opinions and thoughts reflected on a larger scale and realizing that they aren’t alone. Their very livelihoods are somehow validated when people see themselves in media.
    However, I’m also really fascinated by the cultural diversity among black Americans and the efforts to understand it. For example, I spoke at a Black History event at an agency in New York and the organizers were very careful to label if an African American and Black History event, to be sure to incorporate all aspects of the black experience including that of recent immigrants. They used both African American and Black because everyone, depending on where they come from, might not identify with one or the other, so they use both.
    YLW: I think it’s really interesting to see how marketers and diversity managers are wrestling with this as well. English, for example, is not the first language of every black person in the US. That’s not a subject we discuss very often. I’ve had people ask me if I included the Afro Latino experience and I was happy to say that I did approach the subject. I’ve had lots of people thank me for including the immigrant experience.  . These kinds of experiences make me be more aware of the language I use when discussing black cultures, so that I can be as inclusive as I can at all times.  As a woman raised in a large urban city, in a largely black neighborhood whose families have roots in the South, it would be very easy for me to assume that that’s some common denominator experience for most African American people. But increasingly, that’s not the case, and its good to recognize that and to have the tools to cross those barriers.


    CC: What observations if any brought you the most value?
    YLW: I really enjoy sharing with teenagers. When talking to teenagers, I can’t assume they know enough background about African American history or current events before I launch into a talk about the book. I can’t assume that they’re familiar with the history of forced limitations or social justice.  At the same time, to go back and explain some of these limitations of the past just so they can grasp the realities of change in Post Black can be short sited as well. So, I like to emphasize how they use limitations or stereotypes about their race to hinder their own world view. I think it’s a good take away point that can be used to build in the future and to understand themes in the past.

    In many cases, the new black identity is just their world. So having a conversation about how  today is unique to the times is a fun challenge.  Understanding that President Obama is a big deal or that repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is major carries less weight with them because it’s part of their childhood.  I remember being a kid and the Berlin Wall fell, ending the Cold War. Well, I had just learned about the Berlin Wall, two years prior. I remember my mom saying “Do you realize how major this is? I’ve lived with the Berlin Wall my entire life.”  For teens,  learning about the past is just as exciting as navigating the future.

    CC: What were instances that took you by surprise or touched you deeply?
    YLW: There was one older woman who came to a book signing in Harlem and she was convinced that President Obama was going to be written out of the history books and forgotten.  A couple of people in the audience tried to convince her that that couldn’t happen, pointing to technology today and the fact that there’s so much documentation on him, but she felt that we were wide eyed and naïve to think otherwise.  Then she started to cry. The audience was startled.  Her feelings were very real. Obviously, she’s seen things in her lifetime that I haven’t . . .things that others fought very hard for me not to experience. And finally, I asked her, do you want me to just say forget it. Give up and do nothing. At the end of the event, she said she really enjoyed the discussion. I think about her comments because its my responsibility to ensure that the events of today that are of value are not forgotten.
    CC: There’s one segment of the black community that has a large effect on the other communities you explored, which you really didn’ t profile in Post Black, outside of the Obama Factor – the politicians. Was that intentional? And taking into consideration the intense political climate moving towards 2012 and an interesting mayoral race in your hometown of Chicago with strong African American candidates, none of whom are backed by Pres. Obama whose former Chief of Staff is also running and happens to be a Jewish American, is this a community you would like to examine in a
    new book or online?
     YLW: I think people are reevaluating what both strategies mean and how or when they apply.  I didn’t discuss politicians in Post Black because at the time, there was quite a bit of discussion about the “new black” politician and I didn’t think there was much to add to it. Nor did I think it was that new. I didn’t always agree with how the conversation was framed. I personally thought it was divisive, which is in part why I wrote the Obama Factor chapter.Will I write about it more in the future? We’ll see.
    CC: On Jan. 12, 2010, an earthquake devastated the Haitian capital and its surrounding areas. As a result, there definitely has been an increase in immigrants from Haiti into the United States. In Post Black you discussed the African Diaspora: New Immigrants in America and the intra-ethnic matters that exist with a mix of interviews that details those who have blended into the larger African American community, ignorant views directed at new citizens and those whose nationality comes first. What opinions, if any, do you have of the new wave of Haitian immigrants who are not only entering black communities in America but white ones as well, through adoption?
    YLW: Its another identity that’s part of the black experience in America: that of immigrant children raised by white American parents.  I don’t know the size of the adopted Haitian population, but I’m sure it’s a large enough one to impact policy as the children mature.  The rise in multicultural families and the role played in identity is a new reality.  As for the Haitian American population at large, I think its great to highlight that there are new immigrants constantly coming and that those needs have to be addressed and included as well.
    CC: Post Black delivers an empowering, full experience of the African American community. When you read it today does it need any altering or have the topics you discussed followed the same trends?
    YLW: They’ve followed the same trends.  Transitions continue and the changes that were evident before, are now realities that we live in. Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell was repealed. President Obama, despite attacks from all sides passed a series of reforms and is positioned strongly in challenges with a more Republican congress.  Cultural diversity in African American life is aggressively explored and people who weren’t talking about it before, are now discussing it. Businesses, big and small are reevaluating how to be more effective.  The notion of what’s black and what’s not is being challenged.  The role of church, the rise of spirituality, the rise of agnostics are just a part of this reevaluation process.
    — Christopher L. Chaney
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  • Author Jam Donaldson’s book “Conversate is Not a Word”

    Jam Donaldson is an attorney and author of the book Conversate is Not a Word. She is also creator of the website www.hotghettomess.com and the TV show “We’ve Got to Do Better.” She’s based in Washington D.C.
    YLW: What made you want to write Conversate is Not a Word?
    JD: I did not plan on doing this book. My goal was not to do a book, but people around me encouraged me to put it together. I never wanted to be an author.  I started writing and soon it looked like I had a book.
    YLW: Why did friends want you to write a book?
    JD: At the time I had my website, www.hotghettomess.com. The TV show was coming out. That was really controversial. People responded to my editorial pieces and blog pieces, and said we need someone in your generation saying these things. And there’s no women talking about this. Some people thought it was controversial or mean spirited, but there was nothing out there. People said no one is crazy enough to say it.
    YLW: Some could argue that your criticism of ghettoisms are class based and that you’re critical of people with limited incomes, exposure and education. How do you respond to that?
    JD: That’s not true. My book is not about the ghetto as a place but as a mentality. I think it’s almost insulting to say [ghettoisms] are just lower class problems. To me that insults the lower class. I know plenty of my peers who are well educated and solidly middle class who are a hot ghetto mess sometimes. Just because you don’t have a high income doesn’t give you the right to act a fool, and just because you have a high income doesn’t mean you’re immune to being a fool. I focus on behavior no matter who is doing it?
    YLW: What’s so called “ghetto” and issues of class are interwoven. Can they be separated?
    JD: Are there some issues that disproportionately impact low income people?  Sure. But Washington D.C has the highest number of upper and middle class black people and yet you see the same behaviors.  Self esteem and relationship issues cross all boundaries.
    YLW: Today it seems as if the behaviors you target in Conversate is Not a Word are discussed more frequently. Do you think it’s more exceptable to “air dirty laundry” today than it was when you started your website?
    JD: Yes.  I started my site in 2004. It’s six years later and with the explosion of the internet and lots of different voices we can showcase one another’s opinions in a thoughtful kind of way. When you have very limited media covering black people, anything that’s critical is seen as overly one-sided. But as the opportunities for media have expanded recently, it allows us to have more back and forth dialogue. It just promotes more opportunity for understanding now.
    YLW: Why did you start the website?
    JD: As for the website, it was one black person telling another black person saying we have to do better. There is a thing in our community where we don’t like to be critical of one another publicly. The thought is that we don’t want to give people more ammunition by showing people at their worst. At some point we have to acknowledge that some of our problems we can address. I do it in a tongue and cheek way. People say I’m mean or I use curse words. But I have a “we have to get our own stuff together first” attitude about things. When Bill Cosby came out with his rants, it was almost the same thing. People said we agree with what you’re saying  but you can’t say it publicly. When I started it was very traumatic to have these conversations. Now people are very into having these talks in public.
    YLW: How have people responded to the book?
    JD: I am pleasantly surprised. I got a number of really good reviews. And what is most striking is that it is cross generational. People from 18 and above are saying I’m glad someone is saying this and we’re tired of this.  I have some white people who say I don’t know why you just target this to blacks, this is across the board. Because I’m black that’s who I know and who I focus on. But these behaviors are evident all over.
    YLW: You speak frequently on how the  black woman’s voice for the Gen X and Y group is virtually absent from think tank media. What do you accredit this, too?
    JD: I think it’s shocking. It’s like the black church. The church is full of women, but its lead by the men.
     Women are the one’s keeping the communities together but when it comes to who’s talking about race or issues, it’s always a male voice.  I know lots of black women scholars, writers and inspirational voices. It’s not like they don’t exist. Yet, I think it’s a huge glaring omission  in our dialogue not to have more women voices, especially Gen X. It’s almost bizarre.I can’t speak for the nation, but maybe historically we’re just used to seeing men discuss social issues.
    For more information on Jam Donaldson go to www.jamdonaldson.com
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